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Topic: NHL 2K7 only $19.99
Posted By: JasonSGN
Subject: NHL 2K7 only $19.99
Date Posted: 09-06-2006 at 10:22pm
This may be old news to everyone else but I was happily surprised to see that NHL 2K7 is going to be http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000GJX6ZG/ref=s9_asin_title_3/104-1921315-1944702 - sold for only $20 . This game wasn't even on my radar, but it is now. I'll have to see what new features are planned for this year's game.

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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-06-2006 at 10:34pm
Nice to see that EA isn't far behind with a http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-15233-NHL-07/dp/B000GE9US8/sr=8-2/qid=1157599809/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1921315-1944702?ie=UTF8&s=videogames - $29.99 price on NHL 07 .

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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 09-07-2006 at 12:27am
Got both in the rental que

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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-07-2006 at 2:25am
Originally posted by Jason

This may be old news to everyone else but I was happily surprised to see that NHL 2K7 is going to be http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000GJX6ZG/ref=s9_asin_title_3/104-1921315-1944702 - sold for only $20 .




Same as CH 2K7 so be sure and give it a whirl in November. Embarrassed

Funny thing is there is no sign of March Madness for the current gen consoles. Just a Feb 07 relase for the 360 game. Things that make you go hmmm.



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Posted By: MatthewK
Date Posted: 09-07-2006 at 11:28am
It's amazing what competition will make you do Wink


Posted By: dbdynsty25
Date Posted: 09-07-2006 at 2:22pm
Now if only they'd do that on the 360...dammit.


Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 2:06pm
Target is giving out a $10 gift card with NHL 07 on the Xbox and PS2. I may head over there tomorrow to pick it up.
 
Does anyone know if right-analog shooting is available in the current-gen version? All I've been able to find out is that passing is mapped to the right-analog stick.


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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 2:55pm
NHL Rivals had that type of passing and it was the cat's meow.  When that series went away so did that passing.  I'm overjoyed to hear this type of passing is available.

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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 6:22pm
Well I will say one thing about NHL 2K7, they did a nice job with the new camera. I can see myself sticking with it.  Not much else has changed unfortuantely.




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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by Brent

Not much else has changed unfortuantely.



Well, I have it coming on the rental program so it's really not costing me anything extra, but that sentence right there will pretty much send it right back for me.  I'll give it a whirl, but if that is all they changed I don't see myself spending more than an hour or two with it.


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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by Ted_L

NHL Rivals had that type of passing and it was the cat's meow.  When that series went away so did that passing.  I'm overjoyed to hear this type of passing is available.
 
I have no problem with the new passing scheme, I just wish I knew for sure if shooting was also done with the right-analog stick (like it is on the Xbox360).
 
I've checked out the gameplay instructions from Gamefly.com and it has the right-analog stick used for Skill Stick/Passing and R1 listed for slapshot and R2 listed for wrist shot. So my question is, what exactly is the function of the 'Skill Stick'? Is it just the ability to deke and move your player's stick? If so, how do you do that without passing the puck since they're both mapped to the right-analog stick? Why can't one f**king reviewer actually mention this in their review? Angry


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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by Ted_L


Well, I have it coming on the rental program so it's really not costing me anything extra, but that sentence right there will pretty much send it right back for me.  I'll give it a whirl, but if that is all they changed I don't see myself spending more than an hour or two with it.



Best I can tell, outside of the obvious camera angle the only additions to the Current Gen Versions are (copied from IGN and other sites)...

Rivalry mode in franchise

We understand you are attempting to mimic the new “rivalry-focused” format that the NHL adopted with their scheduling last year, via the Franchise Mode. Elaborate on the changes in this mode.

Ben Bishop: Our rivalry system is definitely my favorite addition to Franchise Mode this year. Basically, each team has 1 major rival and 2 minor rivals, and when you play them during the season, the game will be noticeably more intense. For example, the crowd will get into it a lot more, the players will be a little more physical, and overall it will feel more like a playoff game than a regular season game. Also, winning games against one of your rivals can help boost your team chemistry, and the system can change over the course of your Franchise as new rivals are created through various events.

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And player shadowing on the fly.


I played a game and they have a what's new in 2K7 section in the game settings but I did not take the time to look.  Those two and the camera are the only things I have noticed or saw written about regarding the current gen games.


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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by Jason

 
I have no problem with the new passing scheme, I just wish I knew for sure if shooting was also done with the right-analog stick (like it is on the Xbox360).
 
I've checked out the gameplay instructions from Gamefly.com and it has the right-analog stick used for Skill Stick/Passing and R1 listed for slapshot and R2 listed for wrist shot. So my question is, what exactly is the function of the 'Skill Stick'? Is it just the ability to deke and move your player's stick? If so, how do you do that without passing the puck since they're both mapped to the right-analog stick? Why can't one f**king reviewer actually mention this in their review? Angry



http://xbox.ign.com/articles/732/732148p1.html - IGN Review (Xbox version but should be the same as the PS2)

That's not to say that the development team at EA didn't do a good job, most likely with limited resources. The big addition to the gameplay is what EA has termed the "skill stick revolution." In short, passing has been mapped to the right analog stick, and with good results. By flicking the right stick in the direction of a teammate, you'll flick a pass in his direction. If you flick the stick in another direction, like toward the offensive zone, you'll dump the puck, allowing your speedier wingers to race down the ice, similar to the new style of play in the NHL with the new rink dimensions and rule changes. Still, this new passing system feels like a simple change, like moving shooting from one button to another.

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So I assume Skill Stick and Passing the puck are one and the same. You know EA likes to give every little addition a cutsey name.  Viva La Skill Stick Revolution!!!





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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:40pm
Thanks Brent, I just finished reading the review. Now my next questions is, can the controller layout be remapped? I'm going to pull out my NHL 06 demo and see how I enjoy it a year later.

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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Jason

Thanks Brent, I just finished reading the review. Now my next questions is, can the controller layout be remapped? I'm going to pull out my NHL 06 demo and see how I enjoy it a year later.


Fortuantely hockey games (EA & VC) have been really good about custom controls over the past few years.




It came from Gamefaqs (PS2 Version)

Yea, its true. The PS2 version only allows you to pass using the analogue stick, and might I add its quite an annoyance too. I've had a heck of a time winning face offs and getting used to having it pass the correct way and crap. I went in and totally reset the controls like 2004 which was the last hockey game I played and am still kinda not impressed.






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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:53pm
Very interesting. Thanks again. I would definitely buy NHL 07 if I knew for sure that I could remap the controls to mimic NHL 2004.

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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 09-14-2006 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by Jason

Very interesting. Thanks again. I would definitely buy NHL 07 if I knew for sure that I could remap the controls to mimic NHL 2004.


Sign up and make a post over there just to be safe. On occasion you get a couple helpful Gamefaqs posters.




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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-15-2006 at 4:31pm
My wife is on her way to Target to pick up NHL 07 for me Thumbs%20Up. I'll try to post some early impressions later tonight.

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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-15-2006 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by Jason

My wife is on her way to Target to pick up NHL 07 for me Thumbs%20Up. I'll try to post some early impressions later tonight.
 
My wife came home with my copy of NHL 07 ($20 @ Target) and after playing two games so far, I'm happy with the purchase.
 
First things first, you can completely customize the controls to your liking Clap. This was my biggest worry with NHL 07 and it turned out to be a non-issue. The only controller settings you can't change are the left and right analog sticks, and the directional pad.
 
I'm glad to see last year's 'Skill Stick' (aka canned dekes and shots) has transformed into analog passing (although it's still called the skill stick?!?) on offense and poke checking on defense (instead of Bruise Control from past versions). Both changes are welcomed additions in my book.
 
You can also use a button for passing, in addition to the analog stick, and use both during a game. This is a nice option for people that prefer the old method of passing. I found myself alternating between the two because of my instinct to press a button to pass, but I plan on making the right-analog stick passing my preferred choice.
 
I was somewhat surprised to see that the speed burst button was still available. I thought it was removed from this year's game, but must have gotten the PS2 reviews confused with the Xbox360 reviews. It wasn't listed on http://www.gamefly.com/products/detail.asp?pid=122555&tab=5 - Gamefly's NHL 07 instructions  either, but I can assure you that it's present. Manual deking is still available on the left-analog stick too.
 
I haven't played enough to give a detailed review of the gameplay, but what I can say is that the two games I did play were a lot of fun - I may lower the game speed a little though.
 
The graphics are well done and have been improved quite a bit since NHL 2004, although they're not much (if any) different than NHL 06. I didn't notice a widescreen option in the game, but I think it may check the PS2's widescreen setting and display the game accordingly because it didn't look stretched on my widescreen tv.
 
I hope the game holds up well because I skipped the new hockey games last year and played an old copy of NHL Hitz Pro only, which I have Ted to thank for.


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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 09-16-2006 at 10:09am
Sounds good.  Look forward to giving this a shot.

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Posted By: koebner
Date Posted: 09-16-2006 at 6:57pm
For Xboxers,there is a good rosters/settings file at Flyermania.com.
Although the shot mechanics aren't mapped to the right stick you can still shoot with it,especially in close.


Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 09-16-2006 at 9:56pm
Randy was always such a top notch guy.  Glad to see he's still mucking and grinding with rosters.  I haven't talked to him since the old Thunderpuck days.  If I'm not mistaken he was still making special rosters for NHL 2001 in 2005.  Maybe even longer as far as I know.

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Posted By: koebner
Date Posted: 09-17-2006 at 3:06pm
Yeah,he got a 360, then apparently got rid of it and is going to do current gen rosters for NHL 07 and 2K7 this season.


Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 09-21-2006 at 9:40pm
I've made the move to the right-analog stick passing in NHL 07 and really enjoy the new dimension it brings to the game. My concern is what will happen next year: will EA use the right-anlog stick for passing or shooting? I'd love a scheme where you'd use it for both. If not, I hope EA offers the gamer the option of using it for either one or the other.

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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-04-2006 at 10:01pm
I am finally ready to admit that NHL 07 may possibly be the best $20 ($30 - $10 gift card @ Target) I've ever spent. The graphics, controls and most importantly, the fun factor, are all tops in my book.

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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 6:10am
While some "video game gurus" may dismiss NHL 07, they should not overlook the fact that it's FUN to play. I think some people need to be reminded that these are video GAMES.

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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 10:34am
Which gurus are you talking about?  Is there some juicy forum whining going on somewhere I would enjoy reading?  Smile

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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 11:03am
Originally posted by Ted_L

Which gurus are you talking about?  Is there some juicy forum whining going on somewhere I would enjoy reading?  Smile
 
Here's one link: http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2006/09/nhl-07-360-some-additional-notes.html - http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2006/09/nhl-07-360-some-additional-notes.html
 
I so tired of hearing about all of the "tests" that people run on these games. Just play the damn game. It's fine if you don't like the game, but don't judge the game solely on the "tests" performed on it.
 
Don't even get me started with sliders...


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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 11:17am

Oh, I stopped reading Bill Harris blog about a year ago.  We live in the age of the critic and it has become tiresome.  Nike's slogan is Just Do It.  I think mine is going to be Just Play.



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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Ted_L

Nike's slogan is Just Do It.  I think mine is going to be Just Play.

 
Clap I'll second that!


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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 11:38am
Originally posted by Jason

 
Clap I'll second that!
 
 
I admit that I do my fair share of complaining about games, but the reasons are usually due to gameplay mechanics/control issues or graphics/camera issues, two issues that I feel strongly affect the fun factor of a game.


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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:01pm
LOL  Reding either of the Bill's (Abner or Harris) can lead to erectile dysfunction toward gaming.




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Posted By: Derek
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by Jason

While some "video game gurus" may dismiss NHL 07, they should not overlook the fact that it's FUN to play. I think some people need to be reminded that these are video GAMES.
 
Okay, I'll be the rain on the FUN parade. :)
 
I *hate* this argument, at least when it is worded like that (as it commonly is).  It compares apples to oranges, and ends to means. In most cases, these 'gurus' are not saying, "Whee, look at all the FUN I'm having, but I have to ignore that because of the poor offensive zone positioning!"  People have fun in different ways, and some people don't have fun if the game isn't as sim as they want, or as 'deep' as they want, or even if they players don't have the right color shade of shoelaces.  As far as enjoying games goes, I think it's poor form to tell people that their way of having fun is the 'bad' or 'wrong' way of having fun.  (Although I struggle with this myself with the shoelace people. ;) )  To restate, I don't think people are ignoring or overlooking fun...they just aren't having any.
 
People who get defensive about the 'sim-ers' also tend to make the weird internal assumption that when someone like Bill Harris says "The game does not do this." he also means "therefore YOU cannot have fun with it."  Bill in particular goes out of his way to say that he *doesn't* mean that.  I think when we are talking about online forums, blogs, whathave you, being able to state 'why' the game is or isn't fun is of much more use to the readers than simply saying 'it's fun,' because -again- people have fun in different ways.  If someone goes into detail more about why they may or may not enjoy the game, you as the reader have a better chance of deciding whether or not the game is for you.
 
Of course, if you know you don't have the same viewpoints, you do what Ted does, and stop reading Bill's blog.  Or in my case, only 'skim' the OS threads. (Lotta shoelacers over there! :))  Or continue to read both but with the awareness that you and the site/blogger/poster/etc have different sources of 'fun.'
 
Okay, rant over.  Sorry!  (Where'd that come from??  Actually, I know...from my old High Heat days!)  Regarding the hockey games, I like them both (360), but I'm giving EA the edge, despite 2k perhaps being the 'gurus' choice.' ;)  Mostly, it's because I think it nails the most central act of hockey, a shooter putting the puck on net in an attempt to score, better than any other game out there, and that is a heavy, central measure of how I weigh the fun I get out of hockey video games.
 
In short, I don't like the 'but it's fun' argument because it usually assumes:
  • Those criticizing the game are actually having great balls of fun that they are either ignoring or discounting, or
  • The arguer's method of having FUN is better than the critic's, and the critic is 'wrong' or 'bad' for getting their fun from different channels

Sorry to jump in here all chest-puffed and all, but I've always been attuned to the 'but it's fun' wavelength.  I've written columns on it before! :)

 



Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:18pm
web,
 
I see your point, but my biggest complaint is that these guys go out of their way to find flaws in the game and try to do things that wouldn't normally be done during regular gameplay. I also think they take this hobby, and their opinions, a little too seriously, but that's another discussion.


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Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by Jason

web,
 
http://digitalsportspage.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11224&start=75 - I see your point, but my biggest complaint is that these guys go out of their way to find flaws in the game and try to do things that wouldn't normally be done during regular gameplay. I also think they take this hobby, and their opinions, a little too seriously, but that's another discussion.


Wink





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Posted By: Derek
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Jason

web,
 
I see your point, but my biggest complaint is that these guys go out of their way to find flaws in the game and try to do things that wouldn't normally be done during regular gameplay. I also think they take this hobby, and their opinions, a little too seriously, but that's another discussion.
 
I see your first point the exact same way you do.  If a flaw is a flaw only if it applies towards 'irregular' gaming ('irregular' as I play, anyway) then it's not a flaw that will bother me.  I personally don't go searching out flaws from the minute I pop in a new game, but I 'will' investigate further if I think I notice something odd in 'regular' gameplay...but in some ways I think that is common sense in sports games where you are trying to 'beat' the AI in at least some respects.  For example, if you noticed in a baseball game that the CPU was whiffing on a lot of curve balls, you'd then start throwing them curve balls when you really want a strike.  Then, since you are attuned to that, maybe you try an at-bat where you throw three curve balls.  You strike out the batter, and so you try it again...another strikeout.  You found a flaw in the game!  Are you bad because you went looking for it?  I think -again, in a genre that demands you look for ways to 'beat' the AI- that sometimes 'testing' for these flaws comes naturally.
 
As far as people taking their opinions or hobby too seriously, well, that's judged on a sliding scale too.  Some people might argue that anyone who spends the time to post on a gaming board takes either or both too seriously. 
 
Then there are those die-hard whack-jobs that actually RUN a sports videogame website! WinkLOL
 
I love all my video-gaming buddies!  From the ones that compile spreadsheets of shot totals to the ones that shun critics and next gen systems! You're all my pals!


Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by webdanzer

I love all my video-gaming buddies!  From the ones that compile spreadsheets of shot totals to the ones that shun critics and next gen systems! You're all my pals!
 
That line made me laugh out loud. LOL
 
I agree with your post. I have no problem with someone finding a flaw during "regular" gameply. Like you, I'll check out issues that arise during regular gameplay (the "lefty" glitch in MVP 04 comes to mind). I just don't understand the reasoning behind "testing" a game the second you buy it.
 
Your friend,
 
The next-gen system and critic shunner Wink.


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Posted By: Derek
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 2:01pm

Back, foul critic! :)

No worries, I have no plans on importing any guru-critic sensibilities here. ;) 
 


Posted By: koebner
Date Posted: 10-05-2006 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by Brent

LOL  Reding either of the Bill's (Abner or Harris) can lead to erectile dysfunction toward gaming.



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Posted By: TedSGN
Date Posted: 10-07-2006 at 12:25am
I was just notified that 2k7 is on the way.  I'll post impressions after spending some time with it if anyone cares.

Although I never did get some detailed impressions going for NHL 07 I can safely say that the ps2 version is the best all around hockey game I have ever played and that is going back to Gretzky on the Amiga.


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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-07-2006 at 12:31am
Originally posted by Ted_L

I was just notified that 2k7 is on the way.  I'll post impressions after spending some time with it if anyone cares.

Although I never did get some detailed impressions going for NHL 07 I can safely say that the ps2 version is the best all around hockey game I have ever played and that is going back to Gretzky on the Amiga.
 
I haven't enjoyed and played a hockey game this much since NHL 98 on the PS1.


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Posted By: JasonSGN
Date Posted: 10-08-2006 at 8:05am
I should rename this thread since it's basically turned into an NHL 07 thread.
 
I think the biggest innovation in this years game is the right-analog stick poke check on defense. It so intuitive and has raised my defensive game tremendously (just ask Ted Wink). I've always relied on body checks as my main defensive strategy in every other hockey game I've played and the right-analog stick poke check has added a completely new dimension to this series for me.
 
BTW, right-analog stick passing is a close second. I'm exclusively a right-analog stick checker now (that sounds kinda gay - not that there's anything wrong with that LOL).


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